Tuesday, 19 May 2020

10 reasons why people are confused about the “last days”




10 reasons why people are confused about the “last days”


Why we misunderstand the end times.


1. We interpret scriptures without taking cognizance it was written by Jews and interpret it as if it was speaking to us.

For example. We forget it is a Jewish concept at the time the gospels were written that God lived in a house call the Temple was Jesus is alive. Hence that place is call “heaven” and the priest served him in a place call “earth”. Hence the temple was called “heaven and earth”.

Hence when the Bible speaks about the end of heavens and earth, it speaks about the destruction of the temple. Not the end of the world.


2. Total disregard of the Old Testament.

I was told when I was young that the locusts that appeared in Revelation was helicopters.

I was also told that the sun will turn dark and the moon will turn red.

And a trumpet shall sound.

The truth is that Jesus is quoting Joel’s prophecy in Joel 2.

Joel 2 starts with a trumpet blast shall sound. It is a warning about an army which resembles the locusts. It is Rome.

The sun, moon and the stars is also mention there. It is simple Israel not the actual solar system. In Joseph’s dream Jacob was the sun, Leah the moon and the 11 stars his brothers. It simply means Israel was about to end. That happen in AD70.


3. A failure to understand the language of Scripture.

The Bible does not speak about the end of the world. This is a miss-translation by the King James Version.

The NIV gets it correct. It is the end of the age. To be more precise, it is the end of the age of the old covenant.

God is called the king of the ages and lives from Age to age.

Hebrews in chapter 6 speaks about an age to come. It does not speak about the end of the world. It is the mad preachers that speak about doom and gloom who tells you that.

After all how are you going to inherit the earth when the earth is destroyed?


4. Bad media.

Really is the world becoming a more evil place?

Seriously we have advanced to be globally more civilized world haven’t we?

In the days of the past, people will just kill you for speaking bad about them.

In Jesus’s days women are considered outcasts of their husbands died. Remember how they treated the woman who was caught in adultery. Today we are much more decent.

Seriously if you feel that the world has become a more evil place, would you like to lived in the age of Abraham where people just take your wife as they like?

The problem is the media and the preachers. Every time something bad happens we attach an “end time” verse to it without care of context to it.


5. No idea of audience relevance.

One of the bad habits that Christians have is always taking a verse out of its context. One of the reasons the book of Acts is placed before the epistles is because Jerome wanted all of us to know what happened to the apostles first before you know why they wrote those letters.

Hence the letters there must be interpreted in accordance to the events which were happened in the book of Acts.

So the question here is this. What is the “judgement that was eating the enemies of God” and “fiery indignation” referred in Hebrews 10?

Why did he ask the Jews to go outside Jerusalem? Why did he speak about the saints in the past looking for a city in the sky?

Who did he speak of as “together with us?” It was the believing Jews. They were told to leave the earthly Jerusalem then.

This runs well with Jesus’s warning to the Jews to leave Jerusalem as Jerusalem is about to end its reign as the holy city of God.

The reason for this is that Rome was about to invade Jerusalem. This line of understanding fits like a glove towards what is spoken in Revelation.

Jesus spoke about his coming as imminent. In fact be said “it was about to take place”.

Revelation in fact centers a theme of how the old Jerusalem is being replaced and that they were waiting for a new Jerusalem. This too is the theme of the book of Hebrews.

It is also the theme of the 4 gospels as well. So Revelation in fact was written to tell the Jews to leave Jerusalem. 144,000 did.


6. Refusal to use outside sources to interpret scriptures.

The were documents which had described what had happened in AD70. One of the best books to use is Josephus’ work on the Jewish wars.

Language is a funny thing, it evolves through time. Today a mouse is a computer pointer. In the past it is a rodent. Tell them about a tiger they would think it plays golf.

In fact if you are an Englishman, you would tell me to love with my heart. If you are a Malay man you would tell to love with my liver.

Hence the customs and cultural background of peoples at that time is important to interpreting the Bible.


7. They can’t wait for answer before asking another question.

Having dealt with this issue for sometime, I had realized the intention is not to learn but to mock.

I had a person asked me “if Jesus had returned where is he? I would like to meet him”.

He seems to forget that Jesus told Philip that “my father and I will make our home in you”. That he says its soon too.

I became a partial preterists not by compulsion but by revelation. It took me a whole year before I realized what was prophesied has come true.

Hence you can’t expect to know everything in hours or even in days.


8. A failure to consider the writings of Josephus.

Josephus was a Jewish historian who witnessed the execution of the Jews by the Roman onslaught.

I have been telling people that ” heaven and earth” is the Old Temple and that we are the new. Yet many will still chose to consider the words “heaven and earth” to be a literal Heaven and literal earth.

Hence when the book of Revelation tells us that there is no more sea, they would chose to understand as no more sea.

It does not mean that. Let’s look at what he wrote.

However, this proportion of the measures of the tabernacle proved to be an imitation of the system of the world: for that third part thereof which was within the four pillars, to which the priests were not admitted, is, as it were, a Heaven peculiar to God…” Josephus, Antiquities, Book 3, Chapter 6, Paragraph 4, Section 123).

When Moses distinguished the tabernacle into three parts, and allowed two of them to the priests as a place accessible to the common, he denoted the land and the sea, these being of general access to all; but he set apart the third division for God, because heaven is inaccessible to men” Josephus, Antiquities, Book 3, Chapter 7, Paragraph 7, Section 181).

Josephus is portraying the first century Jewish understanding of “heaven and earth” in these writings.

He is describing how the Jews looked upon their place of worship in the Mosaic Tabernacle and later in the Temple as “a heaven and earth.”

They believed that their Temple was at the very center of the earth, and saw it as the place where heaven and earth came together, and where God met man. In the quotes just made from Josephus, he calls the outer part of the tabernacle “an imitation of the system of the world” and the “sea and land, on which men live.”

By contrast, the inner Holy of Holies he terms “heaven peculiar to God.” There was a fabric veil that separated these two compartments in the Tabernacle and the Temple, which he describes as being “very ornamental, and embroidered with all sorts of flowers which the earth produces.” This last quote is found in Antiquities, Book 3, Chapter 6, Paragraph 4, Section 126.

C.H. Spurgeon (1834–1892) in a message he once delivered (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Volume 37, Page 354), made the following statement about “heaven and earth” as used in the Scriptures: 

Did you ever regret the absence of the burnt-offering, or the red heifer, of any one of the sacrifices and rites of the Jews?

Did you ever pine for the feast of tabernacle, or the dedication? No, because, though these were like the old heavens and earth to the Jewish believers, they have passed away, and now we live under the new heavens and a new earth, so far as the dispensation of divine teaching is concerned. The substance is come, and the shadow has gone: and we do not remember it.

Jessie E. Mills, Jr., Ph.D., writes in his work entitled, Revelation Survey and Research, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words shall not pass away,” Matt. 24:35. Thus the heaven and earth here represented the fall of Jewish power, so also in Matt. 24:29, where the symbols of the sun, moon, and stars is used to denote the rulers of Israel. Note this fall would occur at the advent of Christ.”

Hence when the Bible speaks about there being “no more sea” it is actually saying there is no more “outer court” for the common people to come. This is because we all have been made royal priests.

This is because we are now the new Temple. We are the “new heaven and new earth”.


9. A failure to understand apocalyptic language.

We don’t interpret poetry the way we interpret factual statements. Similarly imagine putting a statue or a piece of legislation in music form.

Why?

Because poetry is the language of the heart and factual statements is the language of the mind.

Hence when you read the prophecy of the “end days” there is a need to understand there are pictures and codes involved.

When people read Peter’s account of how the heavens will be consumed by fire they think that the world will be destroyed by fire.

Then after this God will restore a new heaven and earth. Like a reset button.

That’s not true. I found this interesting note. This clearly shows us what it really is talking about.

“Continuing our study of the 2 Peter 3:10–13 passage, verse twelve reads, “Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Aside from this being a great example of “prophetic language,” we must pay close attention to the Greek words that Peter uses as they are of utmost importance in understanding what it is he is saying.

“Looking” is the word “prosdokao” which means fervent, expecting and anticipating, while the word “hasting” is “speudo” meaning speeding, or eagerness.

Both of these words apply to the coming of the day of God (the Parousia or so-called Second Coming or advent of Christ) which is the Greek word “parousia” meaning presence, coming or advent. Peter uses “prosdokao” three times in this chapter in verses twelve, thirteen and fourteen.

Peter is declaring that the believers to whom he was writing were looking (expecting) and hastening the day of the Lord in their lifetime, for the end of all Jewish things (the Old Covenant) was at hand! “But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer” (1 Peter 4:7).

In 2 Peter 3:13 (part of our passage under consideration), Peter writes, “Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Many of you who are reading this verse are more than likely thinking, O.K. explain your way out of that statement! There are two keys to understanding this verse. Peter is stating that the Christians to whom he is writing expected a new heaven and a new earth. But let us look closely at the Greek word he uses which is translated “new.”

There are two words translated “new” in the New Testament. Those words are “neos” and “kainos.” “Neos” means new in time, something that has never been before, or that which has recently come into existence/what has only just now arisen or appeared.

“Kainos” means new in quality/nature, not in time, different from what is old/distinctive as compared with other things different from the usual, better than the old, superior in value or attraction. The word Peter uses in this verse is “kainos.”

If Peter meant that God was going to physically destroy the physical heavens and earth and create a replacement, Peter would have used the word “neos!”

The new heavens and new earth Peter writes about are an echo from Isaiah sixty-five and sixty-six. In those chapters we read where God will pour out His wrath on Jerusalem (which fact happened in AD 70) and on His rebellious people before He creates (spiritually, not physically) the new heavens and new earth.

In the New Jerusalem of the new heavens and new earth, physical death will remain (Isa.65:20; 66:24) home building and agriculture will continue (Isa.65:21–22) there will be descendants (Isa.65:23; 66:22), there will be a new priestly group (Isa.65:24 which is describing the believer church – which we believing Christians are! (see 1 Peter 2:9).


10. We think there is hence nothing to look forward to.

This is usually the reaction of believers when you tell them the “end times” are behind you.

They will say then “what is there to look forward to?”

My answer is simple. The rapture is not the hope of glory. Christ is and you are his new abode. He came back in AD70 and he never left. He is in you.

John 14:18-21
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.

On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.”

John 14:23
Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.”

Hebrews 3:6
But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And WE ARE HIS HOUSE, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory.

1 Peter 2:4-5

As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into A SPIRITUAL HOUSE to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

You are his house.

It is because we think it’s all in the future. So we waste our lives looking for a better future that is to come. We do not live out our full potential of what we have been given or exercise the gifts we have been given.

God brought heaven down to us so that we can bring heaven to others. Yet we become beings who wait for that to happen. Isn’t it sad when we are swans wanting to be ducks?

I hope that changes the way you think about yourself and what you have been missing.


Simon Yap


Monday, 18 May 2020

Do NOT Believe It.?










Do NOT Believe It.?

In Mat 24:22-26, we read of Jesus telling His disciples what NOT to believe, Twice!

Normally, we will tell people what to believe instead of what NOT to believe. By telling them what not to believe is to pre-warn them of the dangers ahead.

What are they NOT to believe?

- here is the Christ, there is the Christ - do NOT believe it

- Here is the prophet, listen to their words - do NOT believe it

- Christ is in the wilderness, Christ is in the inner rooms - do NOT believe it


By narrowing down to "what to believe" and "what not to believe", we can make it into a "believe statement". That's what many churches and organizations have done. These statements define them and their objectives. When Jesus tells His disciples "what to believe" and "what not to believe", He is drawing the boundaries for them, because He knows that in the days ahead, there will be many who will deceive the uninformed, and even quote scripture out of context to justify their objectives.


Q: Why did Jesus tell them "do not believe it"? Why is it important not to believe these things? This is not the first time. Jesus said "I have told you beforehand". That means Jesus has warn them about this before to them. It is like another warning again and again, so that they will not so easily deceived.


In v22, "the days will be shortened". What days? It is the days mentioned in v21. The days of "great tribulation" such as never seen before or shall ever be.



According to historians on AD70, the Roman general Titus wanted to finish the destruction of Jerusalem and squash the Jewish rebellion as quickly as possible. He wanted to complete the task ordered by Emperor Nero, that his father general Vespasian had started. And God had to shorten the days, because of the great destruction that was upon the holy city. The suffering and calamity was just too great.

Furthermore, there were constant in-fightings among the Jewish groups inside the city. The Roman invasion was quickened when there was no unity among the defenders. 

The different leadership factions were involved in a power struggle within and this made it easy for the Romans to overthrow them.

Who were these various Jewish groups within the city walls?
They were the various Jewish communities that had fled from the neighboring towns and villages, and were taking refuge inside the security of the city walls.
These Jews were also burning up large stocks of their own provisions so that the Roman soldiers cannot have them. This led to famine and pestilence among the non-combatant Jews.


When we read of such judgement and wrath of God upon Israel, we are reminded of similar judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah. See Mat 10:15; Mark 11:23; Luke 10:12; 17:29.

Jesus drew a parallel between the "last days", "days of vengeance" and "judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah"

v22 talks about the "elect". These were the Jews who believed in Jesus as their Messiah. These are the "remnant" Jews that escaped the destruction. They were saved.

Just like in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot and his family believed the warnings from God and fled. If Lot had stayed back within the city, he and his family would have been destroyed. Similarly for the Jews believers.


V23-24 tells us that false Christs and false prophets will arise. Jesus said "do NOT believe it". Don't believe that a savior or messiah or redeemer is going to arise and stop this "great tribulation" from happening. Don't believe them. They are fake and false. They will prophesy wrongly just to achieve their objective.


Josephus the Jewish historian tells us of many stories of false leaders that arose and wanted to fight the Roman armies, and the false prophets who deceive the Jewish soldiers of God's deliverance for them.


Q: Why did the Jews (those who did not follow Jesus) chose to believe in these false Christs and false prophets?

A: It is because they refuse to accept Jesus as their Messiah that was promised by their prophets. They believed that the Messiah is going to be a military leader that will win battles against the Gentiles and make Israel great again. So these false Christs and false prophets fit into their mental expectations.

See my earlier post on false christs and false prophets:

https://advancingtruth.blogspot.com/2020/04/false-christs-do-not-be-tricked.html
https://advancingtruth.blogspot.com/2020/04/false-prophets-will-come-not-end-yet.html


Those who believed Jesus and did not believe these false Christs and false prophets were spared the destruction. They escaped the day of vengeance as prophesied in Luke 21:22; Isa 34:8; 35:4; 61:2.


God has removed the kingdom of God from Israel and given it to the believers of Jesus Christ. The kingdom is now ours. The kingdom is no longer a favored nation, but the kingdom is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit (Rom 14:17).


In Josephus book "Wars of the Jews, page 453:", we read of one false prophet who told the Jews to go to the top of the Temple and wait for the signs of deliverance:

[  ..a false prophet was the occasion of these people's destruction who had made a public proclamation in the city that very day that God commanded them to get upon the Temple and that there should be there to receive miraculous signs of their deliverance.
Now there was a great number of false prophets raised by the tyrants to impose upon the people who denounced this to them that they should wait for deliverance from God ... ]


Interestingly, before Jesus came, there were no Jewish records of false Christs. Nobody came in their time claiming to be their Messiah until after the cruxification, resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ, and then there was a huge number of people claiming to be the Messiah.


Henry Kett wrote in his book "History the Interpreter of Prophecy" in 1800,

[  ..from the death of Herod the Great to the destruction of the Temple, Jewish history is filled with the names of false Christs and false prophets who deceived both Jews and Samaritans. None appeared before this period and not more than one for 5 or 6 centuries after this period... ]


Jesus prophecy about false messiahs was not a random word and hoping to catch one, like so many false prophets today. Jesus was right on the dot, about the rising of false messiahs after Him, and within that period before AD70.

There was a boom in the number of false Christs and false prophets for the period after His resurrection and AD70.


Mat 24:23-24 is telling them not to be fooled by these dynamic or charismatic leaders who had the anointing. There is going to be signs and wonders, but it doesn't mean it is the truth. Anointed men and women may not have the knowledge of truth and can keep people in bondage.


The apostle John was present before Jesus when He gave the warnings in Mat 24:23-24. Later, this is what John wrote in 1 John 4:1-3, and 1 John 2:18

1Jn 4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 

1Jn 4:2  By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 

1Jn 4:3  and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 

1Jn 2:18  Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. 


John was confirming what Jesus spoke to them.
1 John was written about 2000 years ago, before AD70, in the timeline of their generation. It was the "last hour" and false prophets were already present in the world at the time of his writing.


Jesus actually warned them twice within Matthew 24, in verse 11 and verse 25.

This was the pattern of God. He always warns His people before a great event or judgement wa going to take place.

Take for example:

- Noah was warned about the flood by a man named Methuselah, who lived till 969 years old. Methuselah's name mean "at his death, it shall be sent".

- Abraham was warned about Sodom and Gomorrah.

- Ezekiel prophesied about the destruction of Israel by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar.

- and many more examples.



Then Jesus continues:

Mat 24:26  So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 

The Jews have a room in the Temple called the "chamber of secrets" or "secret chamber" or "inner chamber". Jesus said, do NOT believe Christ is there. There are actually 2 chambers inside the Temple, the chamber of secrets and the chamber of utensils.

Jesus said, I will not be in them. Do NOT believe them.

Saturday, 16 May 2020

Double Fulfillment of Prophecy?









Double Fulfillment of Prophecy?

Some preachers say that they can accept Mat 24 as the  1st fulfillment of Jesus prophecy in year AD67-AD70, but they believe that another fulfillment of the same prophecy will come in another future generation.

Many of us who taught bible prophecy used to (but not now) have an illustration of how a prophet sees a revelation or vision. We thought that a prophet sees a vision like a person look at a mountain range. The person who looks at a mountain range can see the mountains but cannot determine which mountain is nearer and which is further. Also he cannot measure the distances of the mountains to each other or to oneself. So we used to think that a prophet can prophesy things in the future but do not know the timing or the sequence of events of which one is coming in order.







However, after looking back, we have to ask ourselves a question whether the prophecies of Jesus is it like this? No, it is not especially the prophecies found in Matthew 24 given by Jesus. These prophecies have a specific date, a specific timing and specific description of events going to take place. Such prophecies must be taken seriously and cannot be disregarded. They must be interpreted within the Context of what Jesus was addressing especially in the disciples' questions in verse 3.

The prophecies of Jesus were  not left to chance or individual liking of interpretation. Jesus gave specific timelines and not vague assumptions.

For example, what is the timing of the "great tribulation"? Jesus answered in Mat 24:21, that the timing would be when all the signs have taken place in their generation.

See: https://advancingtruth.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-great-tribulation.html


Another example in Rev 1:1, where Jesus told John about the events that are "shortly" coming to pass. This word "shortly" also means "quickly" or "swiftly".

In Rev 1:3, Jesus told John that the "time is at hand" or "time is near". These are specific timings of events that are almost going to take place.


Another example in Luke 23:28-30, when Jesus was on the way to the Cross, He told the women that the coming destruction on them will be so great, that they will cry to the mountains to fall and cover them.

This was retold by Jesus in John in Rev 6:15-17, the same scenario. The wrath of God coming on them will be so great that they will cry to the mountains to fall and cover them. And this is going to take place very very soon.


To say that the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple happened in AD70 and again in the future because of double fulfillment of prophecy is being not a good scholar or wrong hermeunetics. Wrong interpretation will result in wrong teaching leading to formation of cults and manipulative groups. That's why with every earthly physical catastrophe within the last few centuries have resulted with many men and women who claimed to be the Messiahs coming to save a dying world from the "great tribulation".

See the many lists of them here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants
https://www.christianpost.com/news/5-false-messiahs-and-why-their-claims-to-be-christ-contradict-the-bible.html
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/08/new-messiahs-jesus-christ-second-coming-photos/

Many of these cults believe in the Dispensation theory, that states that Jesus will rapture the Christians before the future "great tribulation" that is going to come upon the world. They are sometimes called pre-tribulation preachers. Now with the pandemic Covid-19 virus that is infecting millions around the world, many egoistically fueled preachers are having a great time telling their followers that Jesus has shown THEM that this is the End of the world, and they will be raptured soon.

This dispensationalism has done a lot of damage to the church. It has caused many believers to be stagnant and just wait for the kingdom of God that is to come.


When Jesus told the disciples to expect the "days of vengeance" of God that is coming upon them in their lifetime in Luke 21:21-23, He was not telling them about the "wrath" that is going to come many many centuries later. The future has nothing to do with them.

After the resurrection of Jesus, Paul reminded the Thessalonian church that the "wrath of God" will be coming soon and they will be delivered from it.

1Th 1:10  And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 



All the prophecies  regarding the fall of Jerusalem and Israel, regarding the judgement of God on Israel had already been fulfilled.

Luk 18:31  Then He drew the Twelve to Him and said, "See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything written in the Prophets which refers to the Son of Man will be fulfilled

Jesus said, "It will be FULFILLED'. There is no double fulfillment.


J.E. Leonard wrote in his book "Come Out of  Her, My People" in 1991, page 70:

[  God had to utterly destroy the Temple, the genealogical records that qualify the descendants of Aaron to serve as priests and the city of Jerusalem. He had to scatter the  people  and make it impossible for them to continue their futile and fruitless sacrifices in order to demonstrate his repudiation of Judaism as a religious system. Jesus said that no man comes to the Father, except through Him. God verified Jesus statement when He forcibly put an end to Israel's attempt to relate to the Father apart from the Son.  ]

There is no double fulfillment to the end of Judaism or the Mosaic Age.All these happened within that generation only. We are already more than 20 generations behind the "great tribulation" that Jesus talked about.




From the friend's study on double fulfillment of prophecy:

[  Does a prophecy have just one fulfillment, or can it have two or three? Does each Bible verse have multiple meanings? In the 17th century, John Owen well said: "If the Scripture has more than one meaning, it has no meaning at all."

After His resurrection, Jesus encouraged the disciples thus: "These are the words which I spoke to you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me" (Luke 24:44).

Jesus was not the "initial," "partial," "typical" fulfillment. He was the FULFILLMENT!

What often happens is that people cannot deny the fulfillment of a prophecy, but their prejudices leave them dissatisfied. Therefore, they resort to "dual" fulfillment.

This is done today with such prophecies as the destruction of Jerusalem, the coming of Elijah, the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, and the destruction of Babylon.

Where will the "double fulfillment" theory stop? Could it be that John the Baptist was only a "partial" fulfillment of Isaiah 40, inasmuch as he did not literally lower any mountains? (See Luke 3:4-6.)

Isaiah 53, as read by the Ethiopian eunuch, prophesied that the Suffering Servant would be "like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so he opened not his mouth" (Acts 8:32-35).

Did Philip tell the eunuch, "Well, since Jesus did open his mouth a couple of times during his trial, He is only a 'partial' fulfillment--the 'primary' and 'complete' fulfillment is off in the future"? Of course not!

It is time to take God at His word, whether it harmonizes with our prejudices or not. If prophecy is really prophecy, then when it is fulfilled, it is FULFILLED.  ]



Adam Maarschalk, a bible scholar in his research noted:

[  An article written in 2004 by Michael Fenemore goes into even more detail on why the idea of dual fulfillment does not work when it comes to Jesus’ famous words in Matthew 24:

Some prophecy teachers, while acknowledging a fulfillment of Matthew 24 in the first century, predict a future second fulfillment, but this time, with worldwide implications… We might wonder whether those who promote the double-fulfillment theory ever took the time to test it by reading over the text even once. How could this be fulfilled twice?

This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come (Mat 24:14, NASB).

Will the “great commission” be fulfilled twice? Does “the end” come twice? If it does, then, the first one wasn’t the end.

Will there be two “great” tribulations? “For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again” (Matt. 24:21, NLT). Since this anguish would “never be so great again,” how could it occur twice? Some might protest that such language is hyperbolic; it was not intended to be taken literally. Perhaps that is true. But then, the same people should be able to understand that the rest of Matthew 24 is replete with the same Old Testament-style hyperbole. They should not require a second fulfillment just because some events did not occur exactly as Jesus described them.

Jesus never said Matthew 24 would be fulfilled twice, and there’s no rule anywhere in the Bible saying prophecy should be interpreted this way. The double-fulfillment concept is simply an untenable fabrication created in desperation, probably deemed necessary because its adherents expect literal fulfillments of the highly figurative, cosmic predictions in Matthew 24 and other places, which of course, have never occurred (and never will).   ]

Friday, 15 May 2020

Audience Relevance



Audience Relevance

As we read and study a text of the Bible, we must keep in mind audience relevance – what did the original audience understand this to mean?
The Bible was written for us but not to us. I have had some Christians flip out on me for making that statement. They think that the Bible is written to us.

 

It should be quite simple to show them otherwise.
I was discussing this very subject with a man in my office who said, “All the Bible is written to us.” To show him how ridiculous this position was, I took him to:

 
Joshua 6:3 (NKJV) “You shall march around the city, all you men of war; you shall go all around the city once. This you shall do six days.

 

I asked him, “Is this command to march around Jericho to you?”
He replied, “Yes, it is.” At that point I ended our discussion.

 
This is an absolutely insane view. I don’t think that he actually believed that he was commanded to march around Jericho (even though he said he was), but to admit that would be to admit that the Bible is written for us and not to us.

 
If you ignore audience relevance and view this verse as written to you, what do you have?

 

Joshua 6:25 (NKJV) And Joshua spared Rahab the harlot, her father’s household, and all that she had. SO SHE DWELLS IN ISRAEL TO THIS DAY, because she hid the messengers whom Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

 

You have a lady that is well over 3,000 years old. Is Rahab still living in Israel today? Of course not!

 

Why does the Bible say she is still living in Israel today when she isn’t? When the book of Joshua was written, she was still living in Israel.

 

This statement was true and accurate when it was written. But to us, some 3500 years later, it must be viewed in light of audience relevance.

 

Let’s try another verse:
2 Timothy 4:21 (NKJV) Do your utmost to come before winter. Eubulus greets you, as well as Pudens, Linus, Claudia, and all the brethren.

 

Is this written to us? Where are we to go before winter? Which winter? Paul was writing to Timothy. When? He was to come before the winter of AD 67.

 

Philippians 2:19-23 (NKJV)
But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you SHORTLY (tacheos), that I also may be encouraged when I know your state.  For I have no one like-minded, who will sincerely care for your state.  For all seek their own, not the things which are of Christ Jesus.  But you know his (Timothy’s) proven character, that as a son with his father he served with me in the gospel.  Therefore I hope to send him AT ONCE, as soon as I see how it goes with me.

 

The Greek word for “shortly” is tacheos. According to Arndt and Gingich Lexicon, tacheos is used in the LXX and certain non-canonical writings to mean speed, quickness, swiftness, haste, suddenly.

 

Are you (in 2016) excited about Timothy’s soon arrival? Why not?

 

The Bible says that Paul will send him “shortly.”
But I don’t know of any Christians that are looking for Timothy to arrive soon.

 

Are you?

 

Christians understand that Paul was speaking to the Philippians in the first century when he said this.
They don’t understand the “shortly” to be to them but to the Philippians of the first century.

 

 

Why then, when it comes to the subject of the return of Christ, do they want to ignore the principle of audience relevance?


Jonathan Forgor

Thursday, 14 May 2020

The Great Tribulation




The Great Tribulation

Mat 24:21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 

Jesus is addressing the "great tribulation" calling it as never before and never again in the future, will there be one such as this.

The phrase "for then" means that this will follow immediately after what was written in the preceding verses. What were the events that preceded this "great tribulation"? It is found in Mat 24:1-20. Some of these have been addressed in previous posts. As an example, they are:

v5 ..false christs will come..
v6 ..wars and rumors of wars..
v7 ..nations and kingdoms against each other..
v7 ..famines, pestilence, earthquakes will happen..
v9 ..they will be afflicted, killed, and hated..
v10 ..they will be offended, betrayed and hated by each other..
v11 ..false prophets will come..
v12 ..wickedness will increase and love grow cold..
v13 ..salvation to those who endured to the end..
v14 ..gospel of kingdom to all..
v15 ..abomination of desolation in the holy place..
v16 ..flee to the mountains..

Because of these things happening, for then, there shall be "great tribulation". This is how we can calculate the timing of the "great tribulation" by noticing the signs preceding this verse.


Historians tell us about the sequence of events that happen as they approach the "great tribulation"

1. The Jewish zealots raised up a Jewish military by recruiting the Jews to rebel against the Roman Empire both in Jerusalem and Judea.

2. These zealots do not accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah as promised by the prophets in their writings but they believed that their Messiah will be a military savior that will lead them and make Israel into a great nation again.

3. Because they were expecting a militant Messiah, many false Messiahs arose to claim leadership to lead the rebellion against the Romans.

4. These anti-Rome Jews refuse to pay taxes to Rome. In Jerusalem they tear down the Roman dwellings that houses the army barracks outside the Temple because they did not want the Romans to attach themselves to their holy Temple. They were damaging Roman properties and abusing the Romans who dwell in Jerusalem.

5. These led to the Roman emperor to invade and squash the Jewish rebellion.


According to Josephus writings in his book: "The Works of Josephus, Vol.1: The War of the Jews", he wrote about King Agrippa. If you remember King Agrippa appears in Acts 26. He was the first Century Roman appointed proxy King of Judea to rule over Judea on behalf of Rome and he was the king that confronted Paul in Acts 26:1. King Agrippa called together the multitudes of zealots and rebellious Jews to gather in his large gallery and warned them against fighting Rome. Here is what he said in page 185:

[  Agrippa said to the crowd, "but certainly none can imagine that you can enter into a war as by an agreement or that when the Romans have got you under their power, they will use you with moderation, or will not rather for an example to other nations, burn your holy city and utterly destroy your whole nation. For those of you who shall survive the war, will not be able to find a place wherein to flee since all men have the Romans for their Lords already or are afraid they shall have hereafter. Nay, indeed the danger concerns not just those Jews that dwell here only but those of them who dwell in other cities also. But there is no people upon the habitable earth which have not some portion of you among them. When your enemies will slay in case you go to war. And on that account also and so every city which has Jews in it will be filled with slaughter for the sake of only a few men.  ]

This is king Agrippa talking to the zealot Jews in Jerusalem, warning them that it will be futile if they revolt against Rome. But the revolt did happen and began around AD65 and by Oct AD66, Rome was sending troops under Caius Cestius to begin the initial attack. However, the Jews military managed to hold back against the Roman army and later pursued Caius until he left Jerusalem in late AD66. 

This caused Emperor Nero to send his general Vespasian (who later also became a Roman emperor). Vespasian came to crush the rebellion in February AD67. By August AD70, about 3 years later, the Roman army was standing in the Temple in Jerusalem and by September AD70, the whole city felled to Rome.

These are amazing detailed and specific accounts of these events because of the written and oral testimonies of the eye-witnesses who experienced them.


It was roughly 42 months, from the start of the attack on Judea and the holy city, until the fall and destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple.

Remarkably a similar account in Rev 11:1-2

Rev 11:1  And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 

Rev 11:2  But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 


In the vision given to John on the island of Patmos he saw the Temple standing and he was asked to measure it. Also the Gentiles will tread upon the holy city under their feet for 42 months!!

This tells us that Revelations was written before Jerusalem was destroyed in AD70, because after AD70, there was no way that Jesus would have told John to measure the Temple if the Temple was no longer standing.

V2 says Jerusalem will be trampled for 42 months, and if you calculate from February AD67 to August AD70, it is exactly 42 months as confirmed by historians. This is NOT a coincidence.!

See a write up on this war: 


Josephus also wrote on the death toll of this Jewish rebellion in his book on pages 291-292:

[  by AD67, Vespasian shows up in Jerusalem with 60,000 Roman troops. As he go through the villages, he starts in Ghidorah to kill all the youths. The Romans had no mercy on any age whatsoever. They moved on to the village of Jotapata and siege it for 47 days. 40,000 were slained or committed suicide and 1,200 women and infants were taken into slavery. And at Gepaha they killed 15,000. They took 2,130 prisoners. They go to Mount Gerizim and killed 11,600. They go to Terikai and killed 6,500. They go to Germala and killed 4,000 and 5,000 committed suicide by throwing themselves over the walls to avoid the Roman troops. Then they go to Getscalah and killed 6,000 women and children while most of the men flee to Jerusalem.
Vespasian and Titus took other cities and there were disorders and civil wars in every city  ]

On page: 314, Josephus records "that it looks as if God doomed Jerusalem to destruction as a polluted city and was resolved to purge his sanctuary by fire."

See write up on siege of Jotapata:

Josephus was not a Christian but a Jewish writer with Roman citizenship given by Vespasian. He saw the destruction was so overwhelming that it appears to be God forsaken. Titus started the campaign against Jerusalem in April AD70 and his siege lasted from April AD70 till August AD70, when he finally went in and stood in the Temple. The city was completely leveled by September AD70.


If you were one of the disciples of Jesus and you were present there in AD67 - AD70, you would remember the warnings of Jesus when you witnessed such atrocities happening in front of you.
You will have no doubt at all that the prophecy of Jesus came to pass in their generation and not in a future generation.


When Josephus saw Titus coming to the city in April AD70, he urgently and continuously urged the inhabitants of Jerusalem to surrender but they refused. Maybe they thought that God will save them so they overlook the warnings of Jesus about the "days of vengeance" and the "wrath of God".


Josephus added on page 404, that:

[  Neither did any other cities suffered such miseries not did any age ever bred a generation more fruitful in wickedness than this was from the beginning of he world.  ]

On page 405 he added:

[  They were first whipped then tormented with all sorts of torches before they died and were then crucified before the wall of the city. This miserable procedure made Titus greatly to pity them while they caught 500 Jews everyday. Some days they caught more. So the soldiers out of the wrath and hatred within, they bore the Jews, nailed those they caught one after one way and another after another to the crosses by way of jest. When their multitude was so great that room was wanting for the crosses and crosses was wanting for the bodies.  ]


During the siege of Jerusalem, 500 per day were crucified outside the walls of Jerusalem. This was the "great tribulation" unlike anything the world had ever seen.

This confirms what Jesus said in Luke 19:43-44

Luk 19:44  and tear you down to the ground, you and your children within you. And they will not leave one stone upon another in you, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”

The "time of their visitation" was when Jesus visited arrived on their scene and look for the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Mat 15:24).

On the 17th July AD70, the high priest offered the last daily sacrifices on the altar at the Temple and will never again after that. The Roman army ransacked everything and took all the precious utensils back to Rome. One month after that, general Titus stood in the midst of the Temple and 2 months after that Jerusalem was completely destroyed.


Let's look at another prophecy written much earlier in the Torah (The scriptures to the Jews were the Torah, Psalms, writings of the major and minor prophets):

Deu 28:52  “They shall besiege you in all your towns, until your high and fortified walls, in which you trusted, come down throughout all your land. And they shall besiege you in all your towns throughout all your land, which the LORD your God has given you. 

Deu 28:53  And you shall eat the fruit of your womb, the flesh of your sons and daughters, whom the LORD your God has given you, in the siege and in the distress with which your enemies shall distress you. 


This curse of the military siege on Jerusalem was prophesied long ago. During the siege cannibalism was rampant. Suicide was rampant. As regard to the relationship between God and Israel in the history of their religion, this was the "greatest tribulation" that had ever took place.

They lost their Temple, priesthood, genealogical records, religious records, and sacrificial system that they had practiced for centuries. They lost everything that is related to Judaism. From then on they were scattered to other regions and some still continued their religious practices like circumcision, but around smaller synagogues.

See a write up on Judaism:


Adam Clark wrote in his commentary and said 1.3 million Jews were killed by the invading Roman armies between AD67 to AD70. Josephus said 1.1 million non-combatants were killed in Jerusalem, 100,000 in Galilee and 97,00 enslaved. This was an enormous number of those killed if you consider that the total population of the planet at that time was not very big.


Jesus said in Matthew:

Mat 24:21  For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 


The term "such as has not been from the beginning until now, and never will be" is a Jewish hyperbole that is used rampantly in the bible. It is a Jewish way of saying that the "great tribulation" is a very very big tribulation.


In John L Bray's book "Matthew 24 fulfilled", he wrote about Hebrew hyperbole.
For example, Jesus said "not one stone will be left unturned". This expression was meant to mean that the leveling of Jerusalem was very very great, because the Western Wall (today called the Wailing Wall) of Jerusalem was left standing by the Roman armies to be used as a protection for the back of their barracks.
He said the term "such as there shall be none like before or after" is also found in:

- Exodus 10:14 - talks about the great great swarm of locusts over the land.
- Exodus 11:6 - first born of every life died and the cries of the Egyptian was very very great.
- 1 Kings 3:12 - God tells Solomon that his wisdom will be very very great.
- 2 kings 18:5 - God said that King Hezekiah was a very very good king.
- 2 Kings 23:25 - God said that King Josiah was a very very good king.
- Ezekiel 5:9 - Ezekiel prophesied that Jerusalem destruction will be very very great. This was the same as what was prophesied by Jesus in Mat 24:21.

All the above verses and many more throughout the bible uses the phrase "such as has not been before and will never after". They are the Jewish expression that means the event of entity that is referred to is going to be enormously great.

This was the "great tribulation" that Jesus prophesied will come upon the existing generation of His listeners about the great destruction of Jerusalem.